[WiZ] Wear the Shine

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[WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby WiZ » Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:57 pm

Hakim waits in a small room until he hears a noise. Less than a minute later, he leaves. He does not leave anything in the room and does not take anything from it, and he gains no benefit from this, so why does he do this?

Solution is my incorrect PM to Balin's uncannily similar puzzle. No caveat.
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby Doriana » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:54 pm

Is Hakim H/A/M? H/C/M?
Does he expect this to happen?
Is he alone in the room?

Is the room part of a larger building? If so, a residential building? commercial? public? If not, is it a phone booth? a porta potty?

Does the noise come from inside the room? outside? Does a person make the noise? an animal? an object?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby WiZ » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:58 pm

Is Hakim H/A/M? H/C/M? H/irrel but likely adult/Irrel
Does he expect this to happen? yope
Is he alone in the room? yes

Is the room part of a larger building? yes If so, a residential building? commercial? public? all are possible If not, is it a phone booth? a porta potty? no to both
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Does the noise come from inside the room? outside? both Does a person make the noise? an animal? no to both an object? yes
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby JenBurdoo » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:25 pm

Is he waiting for the noise? For something else? A meeting? Is it part of his job to be in this place?

Is the noise brief or lengthy? Loud or quiet?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby Enjay » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:25 pm

Is the noise made by an electronic object? A phone? Alarm?

Do you mean he leaves less than a minute after hearing the noise, or less than a minute after entering the room? If the former, is it relevant how long he has been waiting in the room? Does he know when he starts waiting that he will hear the noise?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby WiZ » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:09 pm

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Is he waiting for the noise? yesish, FA lurking For something else? yes A meeting? no Is it part of his job to be in this place? not necessarily, although he could well have found himself in this situation at work

Is the noise brief this or lengthy? Loud or quiet? this, relatively

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Is the noise made by an electronic object? yes A phone? Alarm? no to both

Do you mean he leaves less than a minute after hearing the noise yes, or less than a minute after entering the room? although this is also true If the former, is it relevant how long he has been waiting in the room? no Does he know when he starts waiting that he will hear the noise? yes
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby hoodie » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:25 am

Does the sound give him information?

Does the sound relate to the "something else" that he is waiting for? Is the "something else" an event? If so, is it also a sound, but a different sound than the one he ended up hearing? Does the "something else" involve other human being(s)?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby WiZ » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:26 am

Does the sound give him information? yes

Does the sound relate to the "something else" that he is waiting for? yes Is the "something else" an event? yesish If so, is it also a sound, but a different sound than the one he ended up hearing? no Does the "something else" involve other human being(s)? no
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby hoodie » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:34 am

After leaving the room, is his next destination relevant? If so, is it an adjacent room? A non-adjacent room? A different building? Outdoors?

Does the sound let him know that he needs to leave the room?

You said that the sound originates from both inside the room and outside. So are there electronic devices inside and outside the room? Are the devices identical? Does the sound originate from the location where the device is? Or are remote speakers involved?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby WiZ » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:40 am

After leaving the room, is his next destination relevant? yes If so, is it an adjacent room? yesishA non-adjacent room? yesish A different building? Outdoors? no to both

Does the sound let him know that he needs to leave the room? yes

You said that the sound originates from both inside the room and outside. So are there electronic devices inside and outside the room? yes Are the devices identical? functionally, yes Does the sound originate from the location where the device is? Or are remote speakers involved? this
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:24 am

Does he move into a hallway? Or out of a room not part of the building, such as: A cubicle? A hospital curtain? A booth? (A soundproof booth? Is the room soundproof?)

Is he wearing earphones?

Is he visiting an ear doctor?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby WiZ » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:37 am

Does he move into a hallway? It would depend on the building, but this would often be the case under the circumstances Or out of a room not part of the building, such as: A cubicle? A hospital curtain? A booth? (A soundproof booth? Is the room soundproof?) no to all

Is he wearing earphones? no

Is he visiting an ear doctor? no
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby hoodie » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:19 am

How many speakers are located in the room where he is: 1? 2? More than 2?
How many speakers are located external to the room: 1? 2? More than 2?

How many of the "electronic devices" are located in the room where he is: 1? 2? More than 2?
How many of the "electronic devices" are located external to the room: 1? 2? More than 2?

Is the sound that he hears coming from multiple speakers simultaneously? One speaker inside the room, and one outside?

Is each electronic device associated with one speaker?

Are the electronic devices commercial products that could be purchased at a store? Are they associated with his profession?

Are they devices that are typically associated with: Entertainment? Communications? Personal Computing?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby WiZ » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:53 pm

How many speakers are located in the room where he is: 1? 2? More than 2?
How many speakers are located external to the room: 1? 2? More than 2? Assume 1 in both cases

How many of the "electronic devices" are located in the room where he is: 1? 2? More than 2?
How many of the "electronic devices" are located external to the room: 1? 2? More than 2? Assume 1 in both cases

Is the sound that he hears coming from multiple speakers simultaneously? yes One speaker inside the room, and one outside? and yes

Is each electronic device associated with one speaker? yes

Are the electronic devices commercial products that could be purchased at a store? no Are they associated with his profession? no

Are they devices that are typically associated with: Entertainment? Communications? Personal Computing? no to all
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby biograd » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:01 pm

Does he in some way compare the sounds coming from the two speakers? their timing? Is he testing the functionality of the devices?

Does he enter the room because in there is the best location from which to hear the speakers? because his entering the room triggers the devices to make the sound?

Is this part of a profession? a hobby? a game?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby WiZ » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:24 pm

Does he in some way compare the sounds coming from the two speakers? their timing? Is he testing the functionality of the devices? no to all

Does he enter the room because in there is the best location from which to hear the speakers? because his entering the room triggers the devices to make the sound? neither of these, per se

Is this part of a profession? a hobby? a game? no to all
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby Hobbsicle » Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:14 pm

Elevator?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:15 am

Elevator? Yes!
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine

Postby WiZ » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:31 pm

Hakim waits in an elevator until he hears a noise. Less than a minute later, he leaves. He does not leave anything in the elevator and does not take anything from it, and he gains no benefit from this, so why does he do this?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby Doriana » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:59 pm

Is the elevator moving while Hakim is inside? If so, up? down?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby WiZ » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:08 pm

Is the elevator moving while Hakim is inside? yes If so, up? down? irrelevant
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby Enjay » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:35 pm

Is the noise the ding of the elevator arriving/doors opening? Someone calling it to a certain floor?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:23 pm

Is the noise the ding of the elevator arriving/doors opening? yes Someone calling it to a certain floor?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby Enjay » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:14 am

So do we need to figure out why Hakim was taking the elevator? He gained no benefit from it so presumably that means he didn't just need to go to another floor. Is he riding the elevator up and down the building? Testing the elevator? Preventing someone else from being able to get in it? Is the elevator malfunctioning at any point in the puzzle?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:22 am

So do we need to figure out why Hakim was taking the elevator? yes He gained no benefit from it so presumably that means he didn't just need to go to another floor correct. Is he riding the elevator up and down the building? yes, but not necessarily by design Testing the elevator? Preventing someone else from being able to get in it? Is the elevator malfunctioning at any point in the puzzle? no to rest
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby trebor » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:22 pm

Is Hakim trying to avoid someone? To run into someone? To trick a FitBit?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:32 pm

Is Hakim trying to avoid someone? To run into someone? To trick a FitBit? no to all - it's something even simpler
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby Doriana » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:47 am

Does someone else gain a benefit from Hakim taking the elevator?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby WiZ » Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:25 am

Does someone else gain a benefit from Hakim taking the elevator? no
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby Enjay » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:31 am

Is Hakim a very short man who has forgotten his umbrella?

Does he get out at the same floor he got in on?
Does he intend to spend the amount of time in the elevator that he does?
Is anyone else in the elevator at any point? Is anyone else relevant in the puzzle?
Is it relevant what kind of building the elevator is in?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby trebor » Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:42 pm

Does he leave one elevator and get in another?

Is he using mirrors in the elevator to check his appearance?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:29 am

Enjay

Is Hakim a very short man who has forgotten his umbrella? love it, but incorrect

Does he get out at the same floor he got in on? yes
Does he intend to spend the amount of time in the elevator that he does? no
Is anyone else in the elevator at any point? irrel Is anyone else relevant in the puzzle? no
Is it relevant what kind of building the elevator is in? no, this would work in most buildings with a lift

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Does he leave one elevator and get in another? no

Is he using mirrors in the elevator to check his appearance? no
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby Enjay » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:55 am

Is he stuck in the lift? Does he intend to enter the lift at all? Does he intend to enter, but doesn't expect it to move?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby Mimino » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:31 pm

Did he enter the elevator accidentally?
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Re: [WiZ] Wear the Shine (recapped/paraphrased)

Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:37 pm

Did he enter the elevator accidentally?

***** SPOILER *****

He had got into the lift, then quickly realised he didn't need to (he had forgotten to bring something/misremembered where a meeting was/suddenly realised an appointment was cancelled - take your pick), but the lift was already in motion and he had to wait until the lift had stopped at all its scheduled floors. He hears the bell as it reaches his floor and gets out.


Congratulations, Mimino, on the solution, and thank you everyone for playing.
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