[Doriana] Under the radar

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[Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:33 am

Damian (H/A/M) bikes for 30 minutes. This saves Morgan (H/A/F) money. How come?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby GalFisk » Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:05 am

Does he knowingly save her money? Intentionally? Is it the primary purpose of the cycling? Could walking work? Skateboarding? Unicycling? E-scootering? Monowheeling? Segwaying? Mopeding? Relevant what route was cycled? Could cycling in circles work? Does this happen once? Regularly? Is money saved that would otherwise be paid? Lost? Fined? Taxed? Not earned? If paid: for a product? Service? To a person? Company?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:25 am

Does he knowingly save her money? Intentionally? Is it the primary purpose of the cycling? Could walking work? Skateboarding? Unicycling? E-scootering? Monowheeling? Segwaying? Mopeding? Yes to all of these Relevant what route was cycled? Something about it is relevant Could cycling in circles work? No Does this happen once? This Regularly? Is money saved that would otherwise be paid? This Lost? Fined? Taxed? Not earned? If paid: for a product? Service? This To a person? Company? and this
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby GalFisk » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:02 pm

Does he transport something? Someone? Does he perform the same service she'd otherwise have paid for? does the route involve her home? Workplace? His home? Workplace? The company that would've otherwise been paid?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:41 pm

Does he transport something? Yes Someone? No Does he perform the same service she'd otherwise have paid for? Yope, explore does the route involve her home? Workplace? His home? This; no to rest Workplace? The company that would've otherwise been paid?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Mimino » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:52 pm

Does he pick something up for Morgan?
Does he deliver a letter for her? thus, saving her the postage?
Does he deliver official documents right in time before a deadline closes? thus, saving her from a potential fine?
Does he take the item he is transporting from his home? does he return the item he is transporting to his home?
Is the "something" he is transporting a real, tangible item? an animal?
Does he advertise the company while biking? thus, entitling Morgan to a free service?
Is Damian benefitting from that as well? or just doing Morgan a favor? Is the relationship between Damian and Morgan relevant?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:03 pm

Does he pick something up for Morgan? No
Does he deliver a letter for her? No thus, saving her the postage? ... but yes
Does he deliver official documents right in time before a deadline closes? thus, saving her from a potential fine? No to these
Does he take the item he is transporting from his home? Yes does he return the item he is transporting to his home? No
Is the "something" he is transporting a real, tangible item? Yes an animal? No
Does he advertise the company while biking? thus, entitling Morgan to a free service? No to these
Is Damian benefitting from that as well? No or just doing Morgan a favor? Yes Is the relationship between Damian and Morgan relevant? Yes
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Mimino » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:12 pm

Does he deliver a parcel? something else? something he had in his house? documents? something he printed?
Does he deliver it on behalf of Morgan?
Are Damian and Morgan: brother and sister? husband and wife? Father and daughter? Mother and son? other relatives? fiancees?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:03 pm

Does he deliver a parcel? Not "deliver", but he does something with a parcel something else? No something he had in his house? Yes documents? something he printed? No to rest
Does he deliver it on behalf of Morgan? No
Are Damian and Morgan: brother and sister? husband and wife? Father and daughter? Mother and son? other relatives? fiancees? None of these
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Mimino » Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:30 pm

Does he transport the parcel? does he open it? do something with its content? leave it in some place? give it to someone? discard it?
Do Damian and Morgan live in the same house? are they neighbors? colleagues? co-workers? friends? teammates?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:20 pm

Does he transport the parcel? Yes does he open it? do something with its content? leave it in some place? give it to someone? Yes, but beware of FA discard it? No to all others
Do Damian and Morgan live in the same house? are they neighbors? colleagues? co-workers? friends? teammates? No to all
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Mimino » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:15 am

Is Damian working for Morgan? Is Damian a doctor? a teacher? police?
Is there something in the parcel? if so: does it belong to Damian? to Morgan? Does anyone of the both basically wants to get rid of the parcel or its content?
Was the parcel wrongly delivered to Damian before?
If Damian had not transported the parcel it would have been sent by mail? for which Morgan would have to pay the postage?
Is there anything criminal or fishy going on?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:04 pm

Is Damian working for Morgan? Is Damian a doctor? a teacher? police? No to all
Is there something in the parcel? Yes if so: does it belong to Damian? to Morgan? Technically, to Morgan, but explore Does anyone of the both basically wants to get rid of the parcel or its content? You could argue that Damian wants to get rid of the content
Was the parcel wrongly delivered to Damian before? No
If Damian had not transported the parcel it would have been sent by mail? Yes, but beware of FA for which Morgan would have to pay the postage? Yes
Is there anything criminal or fishy going on? No
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Mimino » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:29 am

What could technically FA-ish belong to a person? is it a biological sample? like a pregnancy test?
Does Damian hand over the parcel to someone? drop somewhere? drop into a box? through a flap? place into a device?
Is the parcel bigger than a match box? bigger than a bread box? bigger than a cabinet? bigger than an armchair?
Is it heavy?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:48 pm

What could technically FA-ish belong to a person? is it a biological sample? like a pregnancy test? No to these, OTWT
Does Damian hand over the parcel to someone? Yes drop somewhere? drop into a box? through a flap? place into a device?
Is the parcel bigger than a match box? bigger than a bread box? Probably no bigger than this as it can easily be transported on an ordinary bike bigger than a cabinet? bigger than an armchair?
Is it heavy? Assume no

Clarification: The exact content of the parcel is not relevant. Assume one object.
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Sundowner » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:14 pm

Did Morgan ask Damian to transport the parcel? if not: did she know of it? does she appreciate it? or would appreciate of she knew? did Morgan want to get rid of the item as well? or would she if she knew of its existence? does Morgan know of the existence of this item?
Did Morgan leave the item in Damian's house?
Does Damian hand over the parcel to someone who is supposed to do something with it? or could find its content useful? Does Damian donate the parcel?
Is the item in the parcel useful for someone else? or does it need to be disposed of?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:38 pm

Did Morgan ask Damian to transport the parcel? No if not: did she know of it? Yes does she appreciate it? Yes or would appreciate of she knew? n/a did Morgan want to get rid of the item as well? No, on the contrary or would she if she knew of its existence? n/a does Morgan know of the existence of this item? Yes
Did Morgan leave the item in Damian's house? No
Does Damian hand over the parcel to someone who is supposed to do something with it? Yes or could find its content useful? No Does Damian donate the parcel? No
Is the item in the parcel useful for someone else? It is useful for Morgan or does it need to be disposed of? No
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Earnest » Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:57 am

WAG --> is bike sharing service relevant? E.g. Damian took Morgan's bike for 30 minutes thus cumulating money for Morgan. Solar panels relevant? Dynamo? Something charging when biking?

Does Damian hand over the parcel to someone? Yes --> to Morgan? To someone else? Someone related to Morgan?
Is Morgan a police officer? Did she stop Damian?

Delivery relevant? Was Damian forced to bike? Did Damian bike to Morgan's house? Did they live at a distance of 30 minutes by bike? More? Less? Did Damian bike from his house to Morgan's house? From a place near Morgan' house to Morgan's house? To somewhere relevantly? To a place where Morgan was? If so, because she was working?
Did the parcel contain the exact object that Morgan needed? If so, did Morgan order it? Or it happened by chance that Damian wanted to get rid of it and she needed it? Is technology relevant?
Did Damian considered the parcel (and its content) as rubbish?
Had Damian biked for less than 30 minutes would the puzzle have worked (i.e. as long as he reached a relevant place/Morgan...)?

Did Damian know Morgan? If not, did she know her by an address written on the parcel? If so, were the two: friends? in a relationship? brother and sister? Colleagues? Others?
Did Damian know the content of the parcel? Did he put himself the object in the parcel? Did he open the parcel?

Can we consider the parcel an amazon parcel (i.e. a parcel containing an object bought on the internet and delivered)? Did Morgan buy something? Did Damian? Is a gift relevant?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:33 pm

WAG --> is bike sharing service relevant? E.g. Damian took Morgan's bike for 30 minutes thus cumulating money for Morgan. Solar panels relevant? Dynamo? Something charging when biking? No to all

Does Damian hand over the parcel to someone? Yes --> to Morgan? To someone else? This Someone related to Morgan?
Is Morgan a police officer? Did she stop Damian? No to rest

Delivery relevant? Delivery of the parcel? Yes Was Damian forced to bike? No Did Damian bike to Morgan's house? No Did they live at a distance of 30 minutes by bike? More? This Less? Did Damian bike from his house to Morgan's house? From a place near Morgan' house to Morgan's house? To somewhere relevantly? From his house to some other relevant place, yes To a place where Morgan was? If so, because she was working? No to rest
Did the parcel contain the exact object that Morgan needed? Yes If so, did Morgan order it? She bought it Or it happened by chance that Damian wanted to get rid of it and she needed it? More or less by chance Is technology relevant? No
Did Damian considered the parcel (and its content) as rubbish? No, just something he no longer needed/wanted
Had Damian biked for less than 30 minutes would the puzzle have worked (i.e. as long as he reached a relevant place/Morgan...)? Yes, given your restrictions

Did Damian know Morgan? DOYD of "know" If not, did she know her by an address written on the parcel? No, but he knew her address If so, were the two: friends? in a relationship? brother and sister? Colleagues? Others? This
Did Damian know the content of the parcel? Did he put himself the object in the parcel? Yes to both Did he open the parcel? No

Can we consider the parcel an amazon parcel (i.e. a parcel containing an object bought on the internet and delivered)? It does contain an object bought on the internet, but not through amazon Did Morgan buy something? Yes Did Damian? Is a gift relevant? No to these

Lots of good questions, so here's a quick RECAP: Damian bikes to a relevant place with a parcel containing an object that Morgan bought on the internet. At the relevant location, Damian gives the parcel to someone. This saves Morgan money she would otherwise have paid for postage.
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Mimino » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:36 pm

Did Morgan buy the item from Damian?
Did Damian drop the item on some place where Morgan easily could pick it up?
Or hand over to someone who would then deliver it to Morgan for free? (a relative of Morgan? a friend? Morgan's workplace?)
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:17 pm

Did Morgan buy the item from Damian? Yes
Did Damian drop the item on some place where Morgan easily could pick it up? No
Or hand over to someone who would then deliver it to Morgan for free? (a relative of Morgan? a friend? Morgan's workplace?) No and potential FA
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Sundowner » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:40 pm

Is the parcel ever delivered to Morgan?
or does Morgan need to have it delivered to someone else? who happens to live near Damian's place?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:03 pm

Is the parcel ever delivered to Morgan? Yes
or does Morgan need to have it delivered to someone else? who happens to live near Damian's place? No to these
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Mimino » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:02 am

Does the person Damian handed over the parcel do something with the parcel? Give it to Morgan? Make sure that it gets delivered to Morgan? transport it? open it? unpack it? do something with the content?
Is the parcel ever handed over to Morgan? at Morgan's house? by the man Damian gave the parcel? by someone else? by a company? by the police?
Are more people involved besides Damian, Morgan, and the one Damian gives the parcel to?
Under the radar = does someone transport the parcel while doing his normal job? (like a bus driver or cab driver)
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:01 pm

Does the person Damian handed over the parcel do something with the parcel? Yes Give it to Morgan? Make sure that it gets delivered to Morgan? This; no to rest transport it? open it? unpack it? do something with the content?
Is the parcel ever handed over to Morgan? Yes at Morgan's house? Yes by the man Damian gave the parcel? by someone else? by a company? Someone else, working for a company by the police?
Are more people involved besides Damian, Morgan, and the one Damian gives the parcel to? The person who eventually hands over the parcel to Morgan
Under the radar = does someone transport the parcel while doing his normal job? (like a bus driver or cab driver) No, title isn't really relevant to the puzzle
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Mimino » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:33 pm

Is the fourth person working for a company whose business is to transport parcels?
Did anyone pay anything for the delivery of this parcel? (if not: would you mind sharing the scheme? :D )
Did Morgan buy also something from the other man? and he then simply put both items in one parcel? thus saving Morgan the postage for one parcel?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:58 pm

Is the fourth person working for a company whose business is to transport parcels? Yes
Did anyone pay anything for the delivery of this parcel? Yes (if not: would you mind sharing the scheme? :D ) Sorry to disappoint you :D
Did Morgan buy also something from the other man? and he then simply put both items in one parcel? thus saving Morgan the postage for one parcel? Good idea, but no to all
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Sundowner » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:51 am

Did the Third Man send the parcel to Morgan? via mail? and paid for the shipment?
Was this intended by Morgan?
Is the Third Man related to Morgan? just wants to do her a favor? is tricked into paying for her parcel?
Is it less expensive this way? Are Morgan and the Third Man in the same country? but not Damian?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:20 am

Did the Third Man send the parcel to Morgan? Yope via mail? Yes and paid for the shipment? But no - potential FA is this set of questions
Was this intended by Morgan? No
Is the Third Man related to Morgan? No just wants to do her a favor? No, but Damian does is tricked into paying for her parcel? No, he does not pay for her parcel
Is it less expensive this way? Yes Are Morgan and the Third Man in the same country? but not Damian? YES!

Well done, almost there! Just clarify the role of the Third Man.
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Sundowner » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:03 pm

Did Morgan in the end pay for the shipment? but less than if Damian would have sent it directly?
Did the Fourth Man (ot someone from that company) pick up the parcel at the Third Man?
Did Morgan (or Damian?) instruct the Third Man in beforehand what to do with the parcel? or was it a complete surprise for him when Damian showed up with the parcel?
Is the Third Man's job relevant? Did he handle the parcel as part of his job?
Is there a relevant reason for the Third Man's involvement? Would it also have been possible that Damian took the parcel directly to the mail company in Morgan's country? would this have been more expensive?
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Re: [Doriana] Under the radar

Postby Doriana » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:15 pm

Did Morgan in the end pay for the shipment? but less than if Damian would have sent it directly? Correct
Did the Fourth Man (ot someone from that company) pick up the parcel at the Third Man? Yes
Did Morgan (or Damian?) instruct the Third Man in beforehand what to do with the parcel? or was it a complete surprise for him when Damian showed up with the parcel? Neither, see below
Is the Third Man's job relevant? Did he handle the parcel as part of his job? Yes to both
Is there a relevant reason for the Third Man's involvement? Yes Would it also have been possible that Damian took the parcel directly to the mail company in Morgan's country? This is what he did - the Third Man works at the post office would this have been more expensive? Thus, n/a

********SPOILER********

Morgan lives in Germany, while Damian lives in the Netherlands. She buys something from Damian on ebay, not realizing he's in a different country. Luckily, Damian lives close enough to the German border that he can just cycle to the closest German post office and drop off the parcel there. This saves Morgan the difference between international and domestic shipping.
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