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[IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:42 pm

Deborah often has an audience, but there's one aspect of her job that she does all by herself. However, one day a small group of strangers ask to watch her as she performs this task. She agrees, and from then onward there is usually a small group watching her during this previously solitary task.

What does Deborah do?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby GalFisk » Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:33 pm

Do they watch it because they find it entertaining? Educational? Interesting? Exciting? Because they like her? Out of curiosity? Are they outside? In a public area? Is she being filmed? Photographed? Does she interact with them?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby Earnest » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:42 am

from then onward there is usually a small group watching her = did she ask for it in order to perform the task better? Did she become famous because she has been filmed while doing the task? Does the task take minutes to be completed? Hours? Does she perform a show? A presentation? A slide show? Is the task per se intriguing? Can the task be considered "preparation before the show"? Is Deborah famous? Cab Deborah be helped in performing the task? Is it a task usually performed alone? Are there many others in tge world doing the same thing as Deborah? Is Deborah HAF? Relevant? Is the task routinary? Does she do always the same thing? Is the task performed before she has an audience? After? Can the task be considered a sort of show as well (e.g. she is a lyric singer warming up her voice)?

Audience = generic passers? People having payed a ticket? Does she perform on a stage? In the street? Are animals involved? Food? Magic show? Theater? Music? Airplanes? Dolphins?

there is usually a small group watching her = group of the same people? Of always (well...almost) different people? Do they help her? Are they interested in learning what she is doing?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:32 pm

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Do they watch it because they find it entertaining? Educational? Somewhat, but there is a more specific reason. Interesting? Exciting? Because they like her? Out of curiosity? Yope, no to rest.
Are they outside? No. In a public area? No. Is she being filmed? No.Photographed? No.Does she interact with them? Not relevantly.


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from then onward there is usually a small group watching her = did she ask for it in order to perform the task better? No. Did she become famous because she has been filmed while doing the task? No. Does the task take minutes to be completed? This. Hours? Does she perform a show? This. A presentation? A slide show? No to rest.
Is the task per se intriguing? I'd say so, but not relevantly. Can the task be considered "preparation before the show"? Yes. Is Deborah famous? No. Can Deborah be helped in performing the task? No. Is it a task usually performed alone? Yes. Are there many others in the world doing the same thing as Deborah? Something similar, yes--her exact task, probably few.
Is Deborah HAF? Yes. Relevant? Not really. Is the task routine? For her, yes. Does she do always the same thing? Yes. Is the task performed before she has an audience? Yes. After? No. Can the task be considered a sort of show as well (e.g. she is a lyric singer warming up her voice)? Sort of, but she is not doing the same thing she does for an audience.

Audience = generic passers? People having payed a ticket? This. Does she perform on a stage? In the street? Either is possible. Are animals involved? Food? Magic show? Any of these could be in the same show. Theater? Yes. Music? Almost certainly. Airplanes? Dolphins? Probably not.

there is usually a small group watching her = group of the same people? No. Of always (well...almost) different people? Yes. A few people may repeat. Do they help her? No. Are they interested in learning what she is doing? Not exactly.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby Earnest » Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:34 pm

Circus relevant? Are the objects used by her what intrigues the people (e.g. ancient objects, rare objects, objects with an historical value?)? Is the task, before people come and see it, performed backstage? Is it now performed as part of the show? Does she perform something dangerous? Are weapons involved? Is she an actress? Music involved = she plays the music? An instrument? She dances? She does something following the rythm of the music? Is she alone in performing the show? Is she the assistant of a magician?

Do people watching her performing the task want to see if there are tricks? If she cheats? Do people watching her performing the task go backstage? Does she play a piano being blindfolded? Are ropes involved? Is the task a sort of preparation to the main show? a warm up? Tuning? Can her performance be in the middle of a show? Does she need rehersals? Can the task be performed minutes before the show? Or does it need to be performed a lot of time before the show?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:59 pm

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Circus relevant? Yes! Are the objects used by her what intrigues the people (e.g. ancient objects, rare objects, objects with an historical value?)? Noish. Is the task, before people come and see it, performed backstage? Yes. Is it now performed as part of the show? Not exactly. Does she perform something dangerous? No. Are weapons involved? No. Is she an actress? Her role involves acting... Music involved = she plays the music? An instrument? Probably not. She dances? Most likely. She does something following the rhythm of the music? Most likely. Is she alone in performing the show? Irr, there are probably several other with this role. Is she the assistant of a magician? No.

Do people watching her performing the task want to see if there are tricks? If she cheats? No, but good thought.
Do people watching her performing the task go backstage? Yes. Does she play a piano being blindfolded? No. Are ropes involved? No. Is the task a sort of preparation to the main show? Yes. a warm up? Tuning? Can her performance be in the middle of a show? Does she need rehersals? No to rest.
Can the task be performed minutes before the show? Or does it need to be performed a lot of time before the show? I imagine it can be the last thing she does before the show, but I believe it takes some time.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby Earnest » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:33 am

Backstage...maybe already asked...are animals involved? Is her role: clown? Trapeze artist? tightrope walker? Contortionist? Dancer? Tamer? Bearded lady? Does she dance on a horse? Others? Is the Greatest Showman relevant? Make up relevant? Weapons? Does she perform her show alone? With someone else?
Is her show considered mainly for children? For adults? For both? Does the performance require mainly: balance? Precision? Are baloons relevant? Flours? Other things taht could be given as a gift to children?
Preparation to the main show = clothing? Physical preparation? Mental preparation? Exercises simulating the main show? Stretching? Setting up tools for the main show (e.g. stilts)?

Is her show performed in the middle of the main show?, at the end?, at the very beginning? Relevant?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby Earnest » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:38 am

Backstage...maybe already asked...are animals involved? Is her role: clown? Trapeze artist? tightrope walker? Contortionist? Dancer? Tamer? Bearded lady? Fire relevant? Does she dance on a horse? Others? Is the Greatest Showman relevant? Make up relevant? Weapons? Does she perform her show alone? With someone else?
Is her show considered mainly for children? For adults? For both? Does the performance require mainly: balance? Precision? Are baloons relevant? Flours? Other things taht could be given as a gift to children?
Preparation to the main show = clothing? Physical preparation? Mental preparation? Exercises simulating the main show? Stretching? Setting up tools for the main show (e.g. stilts)?

Is her show performed in the middle of the main show?, at the end?, at the very beginning? Relevant?

At a certain point, after she had been visited by the first group she began to be visited by many other people without being filmed by the first group right? Is it relevant how her backstage preparation became popular? Did she give something to the public in the backstage?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:33 pm

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Backstage...maybe already asked...are animals involved? No. Is her role: clown? Yes! Trapeze artist? tightrope walker? Contortionist? Dancer? Tamer? Bearded lady? Does she dance on a horse? Others? Is the Greatest Showman relevant? No to rest.
Make up relevant? Yes. Weapons? No. Does she perform her show alone? With someone else?Irr.
Is her show considered mainly for children? For adults? For both? Irr. Does the performance require mainly: balance? Precision? Not relevantly. Are baloons relevant? Flours? Other things that could be given as a gift to children? No to all.
Preparation to the main show = clothing? Physical preparation? This. Mental preparation? Exercises simulating the main show? Stretching? Setting up tools for the main show (e.g. stilts)? No to rest.

Is her show performed in the middle of the main show?, at the end?, at the very beginning? Relevant? Irr.

At a certain point, after she had been visited by the first group she began to be visited by many other people without being filmed by the first group right? Correct. Is it relevant how her backstage preparation became popular? Not really. Did she give something to the public in the backstage? Not something physical, yopeishly something intangible.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby Earnest » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:12 pm

Did they want to see how she looked like before clothing as a clown? Did they see her already with make up? Already clothed as a clown? Did she give some make up to children? Did they have the opportunity to put the make up to her? To choose some pieces of clothing? Can we imagine her dressed up as a conventional clown (as the one of Mc. Donald for instance)? Is the way she put make up relevant? (e.g. people wanting to learn how to dres up as clown...)

Are sounds relevant (the kind of noises made by clowns)? Wig? Shoes? Pillows under the clothes? Other accessories? Is it something like mothers leave children to the clown while they go to buy the tickets/buy something to eat? Did she try some steps of dance?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:57 pm

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Did they want to see how she looked like before clothing as a clown? Yesish. Did they see her already with make up?Already clothed as a clown? Not before seeing her without, no.
Did she give some make up to children? Did they have the opportunity to put the make up to her? To choose some pieces of clothing? No to all.
Can we imagine her dressed up as a conventional clown (as the one of Mc. Donald for instance)? Yes. Is the way she put make up relevant? Not a particular way, but her putting it on is relevant. (e.g. people wanting to learn how to dres up as clown...) Not this.

Are sounds relevant (the kind of noises made by clowns)? No. Wig? Shoes? Pillows under the clothes? Other accessories? Only in that they are part of the clown costume. Is it something like mothers leave children to the clown while they go to buy the tickets/buy something to eat? No. Did she try some steps of dance? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby trebor » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:15 am

Besides being interested in the circus, do the observers have anything else in common? Do they have a relevant profession or field of study?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:43 pm

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Besides being interested in the circus, do the observers have anything else in common? Yes. Do they have a relevant profession or field of study? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby gregoryuconn » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:17 am

Do they want to see her naked? And she's performing a sort of reverse clown striptease for them because they have some weird fetish?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:28 pm

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Do they want to see her naked? No, I imagine she'd have some underclothes on when the dressing starts. And she's performing a sort of reverse clown striptease for them because they have some weird fetish? Haha, no, but I love this and I want to know if it exists :lol:
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby trebor » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:34 am

Are any of the following relevant about the observers: their age? Gender? Whether they are able-bodied? Their ethnicity? Religion? A common experience?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:14 pm

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Are any of the following relevant about the observers: their age? Gender? Whether they are able-bodied? Their ethnicity? Religion? No to all. A common experience? Yesish--they do experience certain similar things.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:46 pm

********************RECAP

Deborah is a circus clown. A small group of people have started to watch her get in costume and put on her make-up. They are a small sub-section of the general circus audience who have something in common. They are not trying to learn how to dress up as a clown or be a clown. They are not trying to guess the secret behind some trick or illusion she performs. They do not have a clown fetish. :lol:

So why do they watch?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby GalFisk » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:03 pm

Do they find it fun? Entertaining? Educational? Exciting? Relaxing? Tense?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:13 pm

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Do they find it fun? Entertaining? Educational? Yes, to an extent. Exciting? Relaxing? Possibly... Tense? But this more likely.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby Earnest » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:01 pm

Is it for a relevant charachteristic of Deborah? Could it be for any clown? Did they watch her closely? From a distance? Is she left handed? Are they? Are pictures relevant? Phones? Social media? Do they wait for her or are they interested in the way she dressed and make up? Relevant what she uses to make up (tools) ?

Is she forced to dress up and make up while in balance? Do they fear something? If so, do they watch Deborah in order to avoid that something? Do they feel tense for the way in which Deborah put on the make up and costume?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:53 pm

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Is it for a relevant characteristic of Deborah? No. Could it be for any clown? Yes.
Did they watch her closely? From a distance? Could be either, but in the same room.
Is she left handed? Are they? Irr. Are pictures relevant? Phones? Social media? Do they wait for her or are they interested in the way she dressed and make up? Relevant what she uses to make up (tools) ? No to rest.

Is she forced to dress up and make up while in balance? Like, while balancing/doing a trick? No. Do they fear something? YES. If so, do they watch Deborah in order to avoid that something? Noish, but you're very close. Do they feel tense for the way in which Deborah put on the make up and costume? Noish.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby Earnest » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:40 pm

Is their fear related to circus? To something in the circus? To lose their places? Is ticket buying relevant? Do they fear other attractions? Do they fear something concrete? Something in the same room of the clown? Something related to make-up/costume? Something related to clowns? Do they feel safe while she make up? Like they have children who fear clowns and let them see when clowns dress up in order to let them see that they are women or men dressed up?

Do they fear wigs? Costumes? Do they want to overcome their fear by looking at Deborah? To escape from the object of their fear?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game

Postby irishelk » Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:28 pm

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Is their fear related to circus? To something in the circus? Yes.. To lose their places? Is ticket buying relevant? Do they fear other attractions? Do they fear something concrete? Something in the same room of the clown? Something related to make-up/costume?
Something related to clowns? Yes.. Do they feel safe while she make up? Like they have children who fear clowns and let them see when clowns dress up in order to let them see that they are women or men dressed up? Not just children!

Do they fear wigs? Costumes? Do they want to overcome their fear by looking at Deborah? Yes indeed. To escape from the object of their fear?

*********************************SPOILER

This is a real thing that several circuses and carnivals have started to offer to people with a pathological fear of clowns. Before the show, they are allowed backstage to meet the clowns in their street clothes. Then, they watch the entire process of the clowns getting dressed and made up, to try to root in their minds that these are still just normal people doing a performance!
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Re: [IrishElk] The Game {MADE UP}

Postby Earnest » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:20 am

Oh God, I did not know that it was pathological...indeed that's a good idea! Very nice one IrishElk as always!
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