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[WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby WiZ » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:53 am

In the middle of town, there is a building containing a staircase leading to a blank wall. Why?

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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby LemonCurry » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:13 am

Was there a door once? Was it planned to build a door in the wall?

Is anyone supposed to climb onto or over the wall using the stairs? Are the stairs frequently used?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby Earnest » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:30 am

Is the building under construction? Was there something in front of the wall before? Is the blank wall a piece of art? Has the wall been painted in white? Religion/culture relevant? Is the wall a wall of a room? Of a corridor? Or it just lead to a wall without the possibility of going in any other direction (i.e. once arrived to the wall one has to go back to the staircase)? Were the stairs themselves a piece of art?

Can the wall be painted by people. Has anyone access to the building? Does the wall cover something relevant? Was it there when the building has been projected and build? Can the wall be climbed? Are pictures relevant? Is the wall typically just blank? Or maybe it is the wall of a museum in ehich pictures are hang? Is sport relevant? Any opening in the wall? Is the wall big? Is it a false exit/entrance? Security relevant (e.g. to catch thieves)?

Is the building a public building? Politics relevant? Fountains? Banks? Hotels? A private building? An house? A shop?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby Zanreo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:42 am

Were the stairs meant to actually be used? Or were they intended for regular use when they were built? Were they just decorative?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby WiZ » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:46 pm

Oh, blast it all, I meant to run this as an OAATP. Too late now. Expect a single-digit solve.

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Was there a door once? no Was it planned to build a door in the wall? no

Is anyone supposed to climb onto or over the wall using the stairs? no Are the stairs frequently used? yes, more or less

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Is the building under construction? no Was there something in front of the wall before? no Is the blank wall a piece of art? no Has the wall been painted in white? yes (the specific colour isn't relevant, but assume blank monochrome) Religion no/culture please define relevant? Is the wall a wall of a room? yes Of a corridor? no Or it just lead to a wall without the possibility of going in any other direction (i.e. once arrived to the wall one has to go back to the staircase)? no Were the stairs themselves a piece of art? no

Can the wall be painted by people It could be, but that would be considered vandalism :P . Has anyone access to the building? yes Does the wall cover something relevant? no Was it there when the building has been projected and build? Yes, the wall was part of the plan from start to finish Can the wall be climbed? no Are pictures relevant? no Is the wall typically just blank? yes Or maybe it is the wall of a museum in ehich pictures are hang? no Is sport relevant? no Any opening in the wall? yes, good Q Is the wall big? not remarkably so Is it a false exit/entrance? no Security relevant (e.g. to catch thieves)? no

Is the building a public building? yes Politics relevant? no Fountains? no Banks? Hotels? A private building? An house? A shop? no to all

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Were the stairs meant to actually be used? yes Or were they intended for regular use when they were built? yes, but this intention did not changeWere they just decorative? no
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby irishelk » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:21 pm

Is there a doorway in the blank wall? =)

Is there another opening for people to go through? For people to put something through? A mail slot? A window into a kitchen?

Do people come in off the street to use the stairs? Would the people using it be called customers? Employees?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby WiZ » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:27 pm

Is there a doorway in the blank wall? =) No :P

Is there another opening for people to go through? no For people to put something through? yes A mail slot? no A window into a kitchen? no

Do people come in off the street to use the stairs? Sometimes Would the people using it be called customers? Employees? no to both
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby Earnest » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:12 am

So there are more openings right? And we can assume that they are all visible to people right? Relevant what was there on the other side of the wall? Other people? Could the wall be accessed both sides? If so were there stairs on the other side as well?

Do people put relevantly something through the openings? If so, in any part of the year? Did they expect something in return? Or maybe people just receive something if they put their hands in the openings? Is hygiene relevant? Environment? Christmas letters? Money? Charity? Technology? Is the wall a screen? Is something projected on it?

Can a card pass through the openings? A baseball ball? A basketball ball? An hand? A car?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby invisiblemimsy » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:30 pm

Is it relevant what is on the other side of the wall and/or its opening? Is theatre involved? E.g. this is behind stage and an actor pokes their head through the opening to be viewed by the audience on the other side? Is puppetry involved? Food? An offering? Death? A guillotine?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby WiZ » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:19 pm

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So there are more openings right? not relevantly And we can assume that they are all visible to people right? the one relevant opening is visible to all people, yes Relevant what was there on the other side of the wall? yes Other people? yes, sometimes Could the wall be accessed both sides? yes If so were there stairs on the other side as well? no

Do people put relevantly something through the openings? yes If so, in any part of the year? this is an everyday occurence Did they expect something in return? no Or maybe people just receive something if they put their hands in the openings? no Is hygiene relevant? Environment? Christmas letters? no to these Money? occasionally Charity? Technology? no to both Is the wall a screen? no Is something projected on it? no

Can a card pass through the openings? yes A baseball ball? not without excessive cajoling A basketball ball? no An hand? What, like a severed hand? Yes, it could A car? no

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Nice to see you again.

Is it relevant what is on the other side of the wall and/or its opening? yes to both Is theatre involved? no E.g. this is behind stage and an actor pokes their head through the opening to be viewed by the audience on the other side? n/a Is puppetry involved? Food? An offering? Death? A guillotine? no to all

Your mention of guillotines reminds me: When I was teaching in France, I was trying to cut out activity cards using the guillotine in the staffroom, which was as sharp as a bowl and generally useless. I found this disconcerting: had these guys not spend two hundred years using these to chop off the heads of the aristocracy? Ought these things not be able to cut paper?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby Balin » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:27 pm

I'm more intrigued that the staffroom had a guillotine.

Is the other opening a window?
Is the wall on a castle?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby WiZ » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:43 pm

Is the other opening a window? no
Is the wall on a castle? no

The staffroom guillotine was a paper guillotine as we would normally conceive of it, alas - it wasn't the sort of guillotine that comes with a basket, though that would have made the exercise of cutting the cards out so much more fun.
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby Earnest » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:17 pm

Are people on the other side workers? Can they be seen by people on the other side (I mean people having done the stairs?)? Can they be perceived? Can just a part of them be seen? The hand? (E.g. a shop selling rings and "hand models are on the other side")

Do people go on the wall mainly: in free time? To conduct affairs? To manage their money? To visit the building? To buy a ticket? To buy something in general?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby WiZ » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:49 am

Are people on the other side workers? yes Can they be seen by people on the other side (I mean people having done the stairs?)? typically not Can they be perceived? they could potentially be heard, but this isn't relevant Can just a part of them be seen? The hand? (E.g. a shop selling rings and "hand models are on the other side") the solution is not in this vein

Do people go on the wall mainly: in free time? yes To conduct affairs? yes To manage their money? no To visit the building? not for its own sake, no To buy a ticket? no To buy something in general? no
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Postby Earnest » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:51 am

Is entertainment relevant? Affairs = they buy something? Talk with people on the other side? Have interaction with workers? Commercial interactions? Reading palm relevant? Do workers gather objects? Take something from people coming on the wall's opening? If so, in order to reuse it? To sell it back to someone? To leep them until the owner comes back again?
Let's call side A = side of people; side B = side if workers.
After the something is put on side B by people, do workers speak with the person on side A? If so, based on what side A person has left to him?

Do people go there to shake hands? Had people seen workers on the other side, would the puzzle have still worked? Do people follow a row? If so, to go to the opening? Do they put pieces of papers on the other side? Old stuffs? Phones? Pictures? Paintings? Valuable objects? Technology (CDs...)? Letters? Books to be returned? Something they do not use anymore? Do they throw something?

Does something happen after that someone has put an object inside the opening? If so, inside the toom with the wall? Is the something put, private? Intimate?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby WiZ » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:30 pm

Is entertainment relevant? yes Affairs = they buy something? no Talk with people on the other side? typically not Have interaction with workers? sometimes, but not relevantly Commercial interactions? typically not Reading palm relevant? no Do workers gather objects? yes Take something from people coming on the wall's opening? yes, eventually If so, in order to reuse it? yesish To sell it back to someone? noish To leep them until the owner comes back again? no
Let's call side A = side of people; side B = side if workers. Sure
After the something is put on side B by people, do workers speak with the person on side A? typically not If so, based on what side A person has left to him? n/a

Do people go there to shake hands? no Had people seen workers on the other side, would the puzzle have still worked? yes Do people follow a row? yes, if there are a lot of them If so, to go to the opening? yes Do they put pieces of papers on the other side? yes, see later answers Old stuffs? often Phones? Pictures? Paintings? Valuable objects? Technology (CDs...)? Letters? no to these Books to be returned? yes!! Something they do not use anymore? yes Do they throw something? I hope not

Does something happen after that someone has put an object inside the opening? yes If so, inside the toom with the wall? yes Is the something put, private? no Intimate? Sometimes.

Good progress. So why the staircase?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby Earnest » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:27 am

Are the staircase considered something to make people do an effort? Can we assume the wall around staircases to be empty (no images or other things)? Do people arrive already having the books they want to return?

Do people sit on the staircases? Can people choose other books and take them? Talk to other people returning books for further suggestions? Do people rest on staircases? Do people relevantly has to respect an expuration date (as in a library) within which they have to return the books? Had people read the books they return? Relevant? Are the staircase wanted so that people feel fatigued at the end and would like to rest maybe reading another book? Are books just returned? Are there devices that allow people to choose other books?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby peter365 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:23 pm

Any play on the word storey/story?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:45 pm

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Are the staircase considered something to make people do an effort? no - at least, not for the effort's own sake Can we assume the wall around staircases to be empty (no images or other things)? correct Do people arrive already having the books they want to return? yes

Do people sit on the staircases? no Can people choose other books and take them? yes Talk to other people returning books for further suggestions? yes Do people rest on staircases? no Do people relevantly has to respect an expuration date (as in a library) within which they have to return the books? yes, and this takes place at a library Had people read the books they return? most likely yes Relevant? no Are the staircase wanted so that people feel fatigued at the end and would like to rest maybe reading another book? no Are books just returned? yes Are there devices that allow people to choose other books? yes, if I understand your question correctly

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Any play on the word storey/story? No (my local library only has one storey, which says a lot about how much we champion literacy in Wellington!)
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby Earnest » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:05 am

Do staircase distinguish the library from another place? Do they have a practical use? (If so when climbed? When people get off them?) Are they used just to people who want to return a book? Also by other people? (E.g. people usually return books during their daily run so staircases are comfortable as a training obstacle). Or maybe they just allow the wall to be in a raised place so that once at the end of the stairs one can admire a panorama...or see who is returning a book?
Relevant when people usually return books? In their free days? During lunch? Others? Do staircase belong to the library? Are they relevant for the library? For people working there? For clients? For making representations? Presentations of books? Other events? For hosting important people? For the daily activities of the library?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby peter365 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:28 am

Is the staircase route only for people with overdue books?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby WiZ » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:26 pm

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Do staircase distinguish the library from another place? no Do they have a practical use? yes (If so when climbed? yes When people get off them? no - other than being a means from which to get from the lower atmosphere to the floor) Are they used just to people who want to return a book? yes Also by other people? (E.g. people usually return books during their daily run so staircases are comfortable as a training obstacle). no Or maybe they just allow the wall to be in a raised place so that once at the end of the stairs one can admire a panorama...or see who is returning a book? no to both, and to the idea
Relevant when people usually return books? no In their free days? During lunch? Others? n/a to these Do staircase belong to the library? yes Are they relevant for the library? For people working there? For clients? this, primarily For making representations? Do you mean 'returns'? If so, yes Presentations of books? Other events? For hosting important people? no to these For the daily activities of the library? yes

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Is the staircase route only for people with overdue books? no
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby peter365 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:08 am

So when you enter this library and you wish to return a book you walk up this staircase to a wall with nothing on it but a slot into which you put your books. They are collected and dealt with by staff on the other side, correct? Are there any books that cannot be returned by this method or is this the only way you can do it. Is the type of book relevant? whether it's hardback or paperback?

Is there some delicious pun at play here ? is this a gimmick or attempt at humour on behalf of the library ? Any cultural references ? Is the word staircase relevant (as opposed to the actual staircase)

Is there something about the building that's relevant? Planning or zoning relevant? Was the building used as something else in the past? Was it ever a church ?
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Re: [WiZ] Accessibility Politics for Ghosts

Postby Earnest » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:38 am

Are the staircase present for security reasons? (E.g. thieves are seen before and have ro do all staircases)
Do they constitute an obstacle for people in a rush? Ok...being a library...is silence relevant? (E.g. the staircases are covered by a fake grass which covers the noise of steps. People walking to the staircase rather preserve their breath than talk to each other?)

Do staircase constitute the main entrance of the library?
Relevant if a person is handicapped and cannot climb the stairs? Are there relevantly facilities? Is wi-fi relevant? Any border relevant? Were stairs constructed for structural reasons (e.g. the library was on a hill or an high place)? To preserve something of historical importance (e.g. knobs, railings, others)? To put something (also outside of the building) on an higher level than the ground level (so that is seen by everybody)? Animal entrance to library relevant?, are there relevant signals before the stairs? Do stairs alloe library to obtain something relevant? (E.g. because the building had more than one floor and just stairs, financing from the state were given to build up facilities for handicaooed people? Something like that?) Was there a path on the stairs that people must follow? Do staircase make the library unique in some sense? Are there other libraries having staircases for the same reason?
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