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[Android] Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:44 am

Hi, I'm new here, so if I do something wrong I'm sorry! This is based off a fictional story I read somewhere on the internet and it's my first one, so it probably won't be very good, but here it is:

Because James caught the train, John's life was saved.

The names don't mean anything, by the way, they were just the first two I thought of.
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Re: Final Destination

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:33 am

Hi, and welcome!

James - Human? Adult? Male?
John - H? A? M?
If James had not caught the train, would John have been murdered? Died from an illness? An accident?
Did James catch the train to go to John? Did James know that John was in danger? Did James directly save John's life?
What was important about James catching the train - that he then made it somewhere earlier rather than later? That he was on that particular train? That he was on the train, so he was not in another, relevant location?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:42 am

Hi, and welcome! Thanks!

James - Human?Yes Adult?Yes Male?Yes
John - H?Yes A?Yes, but could also be older child/teenager M?Yes
If James had not caught the train, would John have been murdered?This Died from an illness? An accident?
Did James catch the train to go to John?No Did James know that John was in danger?Only when he got on the train Did James directly save John's life? Most likely, James would have thought so
What was important about James catching the train - that he then made it somewhere earlier rather than later?No That he was on that particular train?Yes That he was on the train, so he was not in another, relevant location?No
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Re: Final Destination

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:50 am

Is James John's father?
Did James overhear something on the train that led him to realise that John might be murdered? Was the would-be-murderer on the train? Would John have been murdered by one person? A HAM? A group of people?
Was John also on the train?
Did James save John's life by killing the potential murderer? By calling the police? By otherwise incapacitating the murderer?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:53 am

Is James John's father?No/irrelevant
Did James overhear something on the train that led him to realise that John might be murdered?No Was the would-be-murderer on the train?YesWould John have been murdered by one person? A HAM?Assume yes A group of people? Two people
Was John also on the train?Yes
Did James save John's life by killing the potential murderer? By calling the police? By otherwise incapacitating the murderer?None of these
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Re: Final Destination

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:03 pm

Did these two wannabe murderers know John personally? Have they been planning to kill him? Were they trying to rob him? Is it relevant how they were going to kill him? With a gun? A knife? Some other weapon? Strangulation? Poison? By beating him up?
Were there other people on this train? Was it a private carriage?
Would the puzzle work if James and John were strangers? Did James just get onto a train and notice that John's life was in peril?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:27 pm

Did these two wannabe murderers know John personally?No Have they been planning to kill him?Not until John got on the train Were they trying to rob him?Irrelevant Is it relevant how they were going to kill him?No With a gun? A knife? Some other weapon? Strangulation? Poison? By beating him up?
Were there other people on this train?Yes Was it a private carriage? No
Would the puzzle work if James and John were strangers?They are strangers Did James just get onto a train and notice that John's life was in peril?Yes
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Balin » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:06 pm

Would John have been murdered on the train?
Did the train make any relevant stops?
Is James a passenger on the train? Is he a conductor? Other railway worker?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:39 pm

Would John have been murdered on the train? Possibly
Did the train make any relevant stops? Yes
Is James a passenger on the train?This Is he a conductor? Other railway worker?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:45 pm

The relevant stops that the train made - just one? more than one?
Does it / do they happen before James gets on? (even before the stop that enables James to get on, I mean) After James gets on? Before the two strangers try to kill John? After James intervenes? Does James save John's life by pushing the murderers off the train at the next stop?
When James gets on the train, are the two strangers and John already on the train?
Do the two try to kill John for material gain? As part of some sort of initiation ritual? Do they belong to a gang of sorts? Does John? Do they single John out for any particular reason? Is he wearing something significant? Have a particular haircut? Look a particular way? Is race relevant? Did John do anything that made the two want to kill him?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:54 pm

The relevant stops that the train made - just one? more than one? Two
Does it / do they happen before James gets on? (even before the stop that enables James to get on, I meanThis stop is one of them) After James gets on?Yes Before the two strangers try to kill John?Yes After James intervenes?Yope Does James save John's life by pushing the murderers off the train at the next stop? No, but OTRT
When James gets on the train, are the two strangers and John already on the train? Yes
Do the two try to kill John for material gain? As part of some sort of initiation ritual? Do they belong to a gang of sorts? Does John? Do they single John out for any particular reason? Is he wearing something significant? Have a particular haircut? Look a particular way? Is race relevant? Did John do anything that made the two want to kill him? All irrelevant
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Re: Final Destination

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:07 pm

Is pushing someone off the train relevant? Do the two murderers try to push John off the train? And James hauls him back in?
Re the irrel questions - Do we need to find out why the two strangers wanted John dead then?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:27 pm

Is pushing someone off the train relevant?Yes Do the two murderers try to push John off the train?No And James hauls him back in? No
Re the irrel questions - Do we need to find out why the two strangers wanted John dead then? No, the motive for the murder is not relevant
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Re: Final Destination

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:42 pm

Does James push John off the train?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:44 pm

Does James push John off the train? Not exactly
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Re: Final Destination

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:46 pm

Did John know that he was in danger? Was he trying to get off the train? But was being prevented by the two? Did James help John get off the train?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:55 pm

Did John know that he was in danger?No, but he may have felt unsettled Was he trying to get off the train?No But was being prevented by the two?No Did James help John get off the train?Yes, although I'm not sure I'd use the word 'help'
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Re: Final Destination

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:58 pm

Did he tell John to get off? Did he throw something belonging to John onto the platform, so John got off the train to retrieve it?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:01 pm

Did he tell John to get off?No Did he throw something belonging to John onto the platform, so John got off the train to retrieve it?No
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Balin » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:09 pm

Did James force John off the train at the second relevant stop?
Was John pushed off the train at all?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:14 pm

Did James force John off the train at the second relevant stop?Yes
Was John pushed off the train at all?Not exactly
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:46 pm

Forced off - by making him think his stop was earlier than intended?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:53 pm

Forced off - by making him think his stop was earlier than intended? No, he was physically forced off by James, but not pushed
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:59 pm

Kicked off? Did James block the other way?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:02 pm

Kicked off?As in told to leave? No Did James block the other way?No
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:04 pm

(As in literally kicking him)
Forced off physically in another way than pushing... Physically as being in contact with him?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:08 pm

(As in literally kicking him) No
Forced off physically in another way than pushing...That's correct Physically as being in contact with him? Yes
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Re: Final Destination

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:15 pm

Carried him off?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:20 pm

Carried him off? This is closer
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:24 pm

Did James also get off at the same stop? Did he grab John and run outside at the stop?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:28 pm

Did James also get off at the same stop? Did he grab John and run outside at the stop? Yes to both
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:34 pm

Did John understand something was going on by James' behavior/reaction? Did the murderers see them run off? Or would they just not get time to also run outside? Meaning they would have to wait at least until the next stop, giving John plenty of time to escape?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:37 pm

Did John understand something was going on by James' behavior/reaction?Probably not Did the murderers see them run off?Assume yes, but they would not have been able to chase after them Or would they just not get time to also run outside?But not for this reason Meaning they would have to wait at least until the next stop, giving John plenty of time to escape?Getting off the train was escaping enough
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:38 pm

Not be able to chase after them because there were too many people in the way? For another reason?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:49 pm

Not be able to chase after them because there were too many people in the way?No, possible FA For another reason?Yes, although it's not particularly relevant
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Balin » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:17 pm

Did James pull John off right as/before the doors closed?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:20 pm

Did James pull John off right as/before the doors closed?Yes, getting John off the train was quick, but to the murderers it would have looked as if James was simply getting up to leave
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Re: Final Destination

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:20 pm

Is another form of transport relevant? Did James have a bicycle? Did John?
This is probably nonsense but... did James put John into a bag? You never know...
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:27 pm

Is another form of transport relevant?Not another form, no Did James have a bicycle? Did John? Both irrelevant
This is probably nonsense but... did James put John into a bag? You never know... No, James just did a quick job of getting John off
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Balin » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:37 pm

Did James pretend that John was his son?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:49 am

Did James pretend that John was his son?No, James and John were both strangers when they met on the train
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Balin » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:08 am

Did James pretend to be a policeman? An employee of the train? So it looked like he had a legit reason to take John off?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:11 am

Did James pretend to be a policeman?No An employee of the train?No So it looked like he had a legit reason to take John off?No - it isn't relevant how James made it look alright, but it is relevant how and why James got himself and John off when he did. If that makes sense
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:32 am

Relevant what time of day? What day? Something about the station they got off on?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:39 pm

Did James pretend that: he was someone else? John was someone else? Their relationshop was different form what it was? The situation was different form what it was? Did John leave against his will? Leave voluntarily but hoping to get on again?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:15 pm

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Relevant what time of day?Yes What day?No Something about the station they got off on?Yesish

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Did James pretend that: he was someone else?No John was someone else?No Their relationship was different form what it was?No The situation was different form what it was?Not to the murderers, no Did John leave against his will?Yes, James pulled him off Leave voluntarily but hoping to get on again?No

The murderers' perception of James getting John off isn't relevant. What is more relevant is how/why James was able to get him off safely.
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Balin » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:35 pm

Did this happen during morning? Noon? Afternoon? Night?
Was the train crowded? Were many people getting on the train? Off the train?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:05 pm

Did this happen during morning? Noon? Afternoon? Night?This
Was the train crowded?No! Were many people getting on the train? Off the train?So no to these
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Balin » Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:36 pm

Was anyone else on the train at all?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:45 pm

Was anyone else on the train at all?Yes
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:01 pm

Was this the last train of the night?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:05 pm

Was this the last train of the night?It could have been, but the fact it was late at night is what's relevant
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:08 pm

Relevant that it was dark outside? That most shops/ places were closed?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:11 pm

Relevant that it was dark outside?Yope That most shops/ places were closed?No
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:15 pm

Lights outside relevant (streetlamps ect)? Seeing the moon and/or stars?
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Postby android18 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:00 am

Lights outside relevant (streetlamps ect)?Yope, but seems to be FA Seeing the moon and/or stars?No
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Balin » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:20 pm

Are lights inside relevant? Lights at the train? The station?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:22 pm

Are lights inside relevant? Lights at the train? The station?No to all

HINT - The fact it's at night isn't relevant to how light it is, although something is.
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Re: Final Destination

Postby DanVS » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:01 pm

Intercity train? Underground/subway train?
Did James talk to John right before escorting him out of the train (e.g. "Those guys are going to kill you. Follow me")?
Did James save John's life simply because he was a good citizen? Or James had some personal interest/gain by doing so?
Terrorism / espionage involved? Would James be the only victim of the two bad guys?
Is James' profession relevant?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:22 pm

Intercity train?Yes Underground/subway train?Yes! This clears the FA
Did James talk to John right before escorting him out of the train (e.g. "Those guys are going to kill you. Follow me")?No
Did James save John's life simply because he was a good citizen?Yes Or James had some personal interest/gain by doing so?No
Terrorism / espionage involved?No/Irrelevant Would James be the only victim of the two bad guys?I assume you mean John and no
Is James' profession relevant?No
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Re: Final Destination

Postby DanVS » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:41 pm

Was John wearing something that called the murderers' attention? (e.g. football shirt) Other type of clothing/attire?
I am assuming James "escorted" John out of the train (grabbed John's arm). Is this correct?
Sexual orientation of the persons in this puzzle relevant?
Does this story happen in the past (40s, 50s etc)?
Location (country, city) relevant? Specific timetables relevant?
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Re: Final Destination

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Was John wearing something that called the murderers' attention? (e.g. football shirt) Other type of clothing/attire?No to both
I am assuming James "escorted" John out of the train (grabbed John's arm). Is this correct?Yes
Sexual orientation of the persons in this puzzle relevant?No
Does this story happen in the past (40s, 50s etc)?Assume modern day
Location (country, city) relevant?No, only that it happens on a subway Specific timetables relevant?No, but time is relevant
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Insight » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:10 pm

Anyone could have saved John? or just James?
By saving John, James also saved himself from the murderers? Did the murdereres were planning to kill James also?
Is it relevant that there were two murderers?
When John boarded the subway was he alone? Did he confused James with somebody else?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:17 pm

Anyone could have saved John? or just James?Anyone could have, in the right circumstances
By saving John, James also saved himself from the murderers?Possibly Did the murderers were planning to kill James also?James thought it was possible
Is it relevant that there were two murderers?Yesish
When John boarded the subway was he alone?If you mean he physically got on alone, then yes Did he confused James with somebody else?No, James is a total stranger to John
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Insight » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:35 pm

Was James one of the murderers and then he changed his mind and decided to save John?
The movie "Final Destination" is relevant?
The two murderers were passengers in the subway?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:37 pm

Was James one of the murderers and then he changed his mind and decided to save John?No, interesting thought though!
The movie "Final Destination" is relevant?Not apart from the themes of trains and death
The two murderers were passengers in the subway?Yes
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Insight » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:59 pm

There were two murderers involved because it was nighttime?
Was the subway very crowded?
Did John knew James was saving him?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:25 pm

There were two murderers involved because it was nighttime?Yope
Was the subway very crowded?NO
Did John knew James was saving him?Not at the time
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Insight » Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:38 pm

The only passengers of the subway were James, John and the two murderers?
Is it relevant the moment in which John or James or the murderers boarded the subway?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby GalFisk » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:37 am

Did the murderers want the train to not be crowded? Did they think they could operate without being seen? Distance between the murderers and John at the time John left his seat relevant? Were the two murderers next to each other? At a relevant distance form each other? Did they have a specific place in mind for committing the murder? Would John have been murdered in the train? At a station? Murder method relevant?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:33 am

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The only passengers of the subway were James, John and the two murderers?NO
Is it relevant the moment in which John or James or the murderers boarded the subway?The order they got on is relevant

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Did the murderers want the train to not be crowded?Yes Did they think they could operate without being seen?Yope Distance between the murderers and John at the time John left his seat relevant?No Were the two murderers next to each other?No At a relevant distance form each other?Yes Did they have a specific place in mind for committing the murder?Irrelevant Would John have been murdered in the train?But probably this At a station? Murder method relevant?No
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:39 am

So aside from John, James and the murderers, there wre only a few other people on the train?

Did John get on before the murderers? Did James? Did the murderers get on first? Did both murderers get on at the same time?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:51 am

So aside from John, James and the murderers, there wre only a few other people on the train?Very few

Did John get on before the murderers? Did James? Did the murderers get on first?Yes Did both murderers get on at the same time?Yes

John got on after the murderers, James got on last.
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:56 am

Would the murderers' plan have been possible if there were many other people on the train? If there were no one else but James and John?
Did the murderers know John was taking that particular train?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:07 pm

Would the murderers' plan have been possible if there were many other people on the train?They never 'planned' to kill John - he is only in danger once he's on the train If there were no one else but James and John? No, because once James gets on John isn't in danger
Did the murderers know John was taking that particular train?No

In case I mislead anyone, if James hadn't have got on, John would have been killed either on the train or when the murderers ended up getting off. Would it help if I recapped?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:09 pm

Could the murderers have gone after anyone else on the train?
And yeah, recap could be useful
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:19 pm

Could the murderers have gone after anyone else on the train? No
And yeah, recap could be useful

RECAP

Two murderers get on an underground train, where they do not sit next to each other. A stop or two later, John gets on, unaware that the two men are dangerous. A stranger, James, gets on at the next stop and realises that the men are a serious danger to John and possibly himself. At the next stop, James stands up to leave and grabs John's arm to pull him off before the doors close.

The only thing really that is left to be solved is why James thought the men were dangerous and so pulled John off the train with him.
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:30 pm

Did they not plan to kill anybody, but when they saw John decided to go after him?
Or could they have targeted anyone fitting a particular trait?

Did John sit next to one of the murderers?

Did James notice something about their: Behavior? Movements? Speech? Appearance? Clothing?
Did he know who they were?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:33 pm

Did they not plan to kill anybody, but when they saw John decided to go after him?No
Or could they have targeted anyone fitting a particular trait?No/Irrelevant

Did John sit next to one of the murderers?No, but where he sat is relevant

Did James notice something about their: Behavior? Movements? Speech? Appearance? Clothing?None of these
Did he know who they were?No
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:40 pm

Did he sit: In the middle? Close to the front/back? Near one of the doors? Far from the doors? Window seat?
Why James thought they were dangerous: Where they were sitting? Where John was sitting?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:43 pm

Did he sit: In the middle? Close to one of the ends? Near one of the doors? Far from the doors? Window seat?None of these - think about how underground trains' interiors are generally laid out
Why James through they were dangerous? Where they were sitting? Where John was sitting?No to both
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:45 pm

Did something the murderers bring with them make them seem suspicious?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:50 pm

Did something the murderers bring with them make them seem suspicious?YES
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:53 pm

A bag? An object? A weapon? Something they held? Put down on the floor? On the seat?
Did James know by this they would go after John specifically?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:58 pm

A bag? An object?Not really, but this is closest A weapon? Something they held? Put down on the floor? On the seat?This
Did James know by this they would go after John specifically?He knew he would be in serious danger if he was left on the train
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Zanreo » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:10 pm

A container of some sort? Something that would hide something else?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:41 pm

A container of some sort? Something that would hide something else?No to both
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Re: Final Destination

Postby GalFisk » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:44 pm

Clothing relevant? Was something out of place? Was something there that only a killer would bring with them in that situation?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:03 pm

Clothing relevant?No Was something out of place?No Was something there that only a killer would bring with them in that situation?Yes, although not something typical
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Insight » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:16 pm

Was John seated on a seat? In front one of the killers?
Did James realize John was in danger because John could accidentally hear/see the murderers plans?

The object of the murderers:
It was a cellphone or something to comunicate with each other? a bomb? a thing that can be found in most houses? or is a extremely rare thing? can you purchase this thing somewhere?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:50 pm

Was John seated on a seat?Yes In front one of the killers?No - think about how a subway train is generally laid out
Did James realize John was in danger because John could accidentally hear/see the murderers plans?John did see something, although only James knew it was significant, so yes.

The object of the murderers:
It was a cellphone or something to comunicate with each other? a bomb? a thing that can be found in most houses? or is a extremely rare thing? can you purchase this thing somewhere?No to all
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Insight » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:03 pm

The object of the murderers:
It was something made by the murderers like a map of a Bank for a robbery?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:27 pm

The object of the murderers:
It was something made by the murderers like a map of a Bank for a robbery? No

There seems to be a bit of FA around the word 'object'.
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Insight » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:34 pm

So what the murderers bring with them and put in the seat wasn´t an object.
A thing? A person? something alive?
Did James realize the danger because of this "thing they bring" or because something else?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:36 pm

So what the murderers bring with them and put in the seat wasn´t an object.
A thing? A person?THIS! something alive?NO!
Did James realize the danger because of this "thing they bring" or because something else? What they bring

I don't think this is far away from being solved, but there is another relevant part of the puzzle that has not been yet.
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Insight » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:46 pm

So, James realized the murderers were carrying a corpse with them and that made him rescue John in the next subway stop? it was the corpse of a child? an adult?
What else must we find out?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby Balin » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:02 pm

Was the corpse sitting in a seat? Placed there by the murderers?
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Re: Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:11 pm

Insight

So, James realized the murderers were carrying a corpse with them and that made him rescue John in the next subway stop?Yes! it was the corpse of a child? an adult? This, although doesn't matter much
What else must we find out? One more thing

Balin

Was the corpse sitting in a seat? Placed there by the murderers?And this is it, well done!

**********SPOILER**********

Late at night, John boards the subway. He sits down opposite three people and they are the only ones on the train. A stranger, James boards the train at the next stop and sits down next to John. He realises that there is something odd about the person sitting in between the two men opposite. He figures out that the person is dead and the two men are holding them up, to make them look alive. He realises that John would be in danger if he left him alone on the train with these murderers, so when he stands up to leave, he pulls John off with him before the doors close.

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Re: [SOLVED] Final Destination

Postby Insight » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:17 pm

Great puzzle, android18! I´ve enjoyed it!
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Re: [SOLVED] Final Destination

Postby Balin » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:27 pm

Loved it!
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Re: [SOLVED] Final Destination

Postby android18 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:02 pm

Thank you!
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